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Title: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: Red on January 03, 2010, 07:32:54 PM
Hey,

The racing seems to be here to stay with strong interest in both electric classes. Steve Cole and I have been flying 1/12 Scale WWII glow models for several years. They are a great deal of fun, fly very well and are inexpensive.

We got to thinking of reviving a glow racing class with something other than Quickies. 1/12 scale seems the natural choice. There is a huge variety of ARF's & kits available keeping with our WWII theme we already have going.

To keeps the speeds down and keep the racing more compatible with our field, Steve had the great idea of using a .30 4 stroke and making it a 3 pylon course. Below is a rough idea of rules:

Airframe
The model must be scale replica of a pursuit, fighter, or attack aircraft produced or in service
between 1935 and 1955. For the purpose of this contest, an aircraft shall be considered a pursuit, fighter, or attack aircraft if its missions routinely involved, or its designer intended any of the following:
a) interception of enemy aircraft;
b) high-speed ground or sea attack;
c) dogfighting;
d) long- and short-range escort.
The aircraft must have been originally designed to have had onboard guns installed. Aircraft that had guns
mounted for defensive purposes only shall not qualify as pursuit, fighter, or attack aircraft.

Aircraft must resemble their full-scale counterparts, and be 1/12th scale +/- 5%.

All deviations from scale outline must be within five (5) percent of each other and within five (5) percent of scale,
and retain scale shape and proportions. For example, scaling a model’s wingspan up 5% and the fuselage down
5% is not allowed. The deviations shall all be in the same direction (plus or minus); it is not permissible to scale
some elements up and others down. Fuselages must be fully built, no profiles allowed. Landing gear not required.

This makes it possible for twins to also compete. Since we have a scale % rule and not a wingspan limit, twins become a possibility!

Engine

Only a .30 4 stroke(s) will be allowed. (We are considering limiting it to O.S., Magnum & possibly Saito) Engines must remain unmodified.

The Only exceptions are:
Glowplug of choice
Muffler may be removed
Any prop
Any fuel



Here are some planes so you can see what is available:
 
ARF's
 
Great Planes...looks like they have some new ones!
 
Spit http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRPX9&P=0
Mustang http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGJY9&P=0
P-47 http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVVG5&P=0
P-40 http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSRP9&P=0
Corsair http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGJY8&P=0
Me-109 http://www.globalhobby.com/public/modeltech/gallery/123610.asp

Kits

http://houseofbalsa.com/store/store-kits.html?sid=0001Gb6btXzySe0hXc3r3S5
http://www.kamodels.com/kitindex.htm
http://www.jkaerotech.com/custom.em?pid=851167
http://www.fighteraces.co.uk/  (click on small scale kits I like the Ki-61!!)

Plans for you scratchbuilders

http://www.rccombat.com/sections/manufacturers/manufacturers.htm

There are many others, I have just scratched the surface here.


What do you guys think? How many of you would be willing to give it a shot?


Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: patrick_ohalloran on January 04, 2010, 11:46:45 AM
I hope to; though I do need to build Foamy warbirds before March. The ARF/kit/scratch-build options should make it feasible for most of the current racers.


Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: Jon_Stychno on January 04, 2010, 02:46:35 PM
Looks like its time to get out to the race shop and start wrenchin.  It's on!


Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: Red on January 04, 2010, 03:44:09 PM
Awesome! If I can be of any help......you know where to find me. I should have Conquest 1 done inside a month. Here it is "in the bones".

(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh124/lownverted/Conquest1.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: Jon_Stychno on January 04, 2010, 04:21:57 PM
Not much room inside the cowl on the 1/12th scale. Yikes!


Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: Red on January 04, 2010, 04:34:51 PM
There is actually more than appears in the photo. The OS .30 is quite tall and makes look big. Infact there is quite a bit of room.


Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: Red on January 05, 2010, 07:45:26 AM
Another shot inside the cowl.

(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh124/lownverted/Bearnose.jpg)



Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: patrick_ohalloran on January 05, 2010, 12:01:53 PM
This is a kit?


Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: Red on January 05, 2010, 01:52:31 PM
Yep Airkill products. Unfortunately they are discontinued. They still pop up on Ebay now and again. Steve has a Sea Fury at the store and Phil Heidt has a Hurricane he may part with. They are definately a builders kit, but fly very well when done. Steve and I have had several.


Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: steve_cole on January 09, 2010, 08:10:47 PM
Build night at Awesome Hobbies.If you have intrest let me know.Build nights are 5:00 to 9:00 PM.
Here are a few pic's.Jeff working on his Pica P-51 and the other is top secret.


Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: Red on January 10, 2010, 07:27:20 AM
Wow looks like you guys made good progress! Can't wait to see whats under the magic blanket.  ;)


Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: jeff_penner on January 11, 2010, 06:38:49 PM
Looks like I can make it again this next Saturday. Hopefully I will be ready to sheet the wings. If anyone else is interested in joining in give Steve a call and let him know.  :)


Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: Red on January 11, 2010, 07:48:15 PM
Have you deceided on a scheme yet jeff?


Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: jeff_penner on January 13, 2010, 09:20:15 AM
Right now I am looking at one of these two. Any comments? Also if I do the Sumthin' Else do you know where I can get the name and number decals?



Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: patrick_ohalloran on January 13, 2010, 10:48:07 AM
If you have access to a color laser printer you could get some decal paper and solution:

http://www.microscale.com/index.htm

and make your own.






Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: Jon_Stychno on January 13, 2010, 11:33:12 AM
I have all of my graphics made by Waldo at Epic Images.  www.epicvinyl.com (http://www.epicvinyl.com) His store is in downtown Santa Rosa. Bring down some photos and measurements, tell him Jon sent you, and he'll dial you in.


Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: Red on January 13, 2010, 11:46:34 AM
Right now I am looking at one of these two. Any comments? Also if I do the Sumthin' Else do you know where I can get the name and number decals?



Man Sumpthin' Else is one of my all time favorites! Woot!


Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: Red on January 13, 2010, 11:47:34 AM
If you have access to a color laser printer you could get some decal paper and solution:

http://www.microscale.com/index.htm

and make your own.








I bought about 100 sheets of that a while back and am itching to use it. It's abailable anybody wants some.


Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: Red on January 20, 2010, 03:51:26 PM
Good deal on a ARF Corsair:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1179130



Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: Red on January 23, 2010, 05:59:02 PM
Here are a couple of kits I have in development. The Tipsy Miss is totally new and ready to cut. I have a Tsunami cut and partially built.


Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: Jon_Stychno on January 29, 2010, 07:55:14 PM
Sweet! Can you post some pics of the Tsunami build?  :o


Title: Re: 1/12 Scale racing
Post by: Red on February 02, 2010, 12:01:58 PM
Jon, I'll take some shots and post them soon.